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Also, if you're just going to say "who will read this" or "who asked", please don't. I don't need permission to speak and it provides nothing to the conversation. Ignore it if you want.
Before I start, here's the things I don't like about the story:
- The Joker Patients. I don't mind Batman turning into the Joker and the idea of the blood itself as that is very clearly explained and digestible and I will get into why later, but the patients are an unnecessarily convoluted plot point that you have to jump through several hoops to explain only to realise that it just doesn't make sense. Gordon got the blood under control, so nobody turns into the Joker or gets the titan disease. Great! And Batman never got the blood out and only cured the Titan disease so he only has Joker in his head after having the blood for a long time. Great! But... They missed the four who got it, and it's explained that the blood only comes into affect when it's gestated for a long time, so... Wouldn't they have died of the Titan disease by now? It doesn't make sense and it's rather dumb.
- The Arkham Knight twist. I like the idea and execution of Jason being the Knight, and the Arkham Knight himself, but that's a separate thing. Them actually trying to make this a surprise was basically shooting themselves in the foot. They should've just had it be an Under the Red Hood where Batman finds out early on.
I've been avidly defending this game's story these past week, and so far I've only been really convinced by one person's criticism. The rest are either easily explained, are completely subjective, or, like I said, sensationalised to make it out to be bigger than it actually is so all the good parts of the story are ignored.
https://youtu.be/AmRstjJSGcY I will be addressing the criticisms in this video as it's positively received and generally has the same arguments as those I've seen online. I should state that I like GodzillaMendoza and I don't mean this as an attack on him. Anyway, here we go.
First, he uses Joker being in the games as the main villain as a criticism, even though this is completely subjective, as the Arkham Series is based on Batman and the Joker's relationship, and not a case of bad writing at all. In the first game, Joker comes up with the entire plan to make Batman see things his way, as indicated by his last monologue to Batman before the Titan Joker fight, and tries to kill him out of pure anger by the fact that Batman did the complete opposite and systematically ruined his plan. In the second game, it's based around Batman basically holding his and Joker's life in his hands, and considering if he really should save him. In Origins, it's the beginning of that relationship and how Joker grew to be obsessed and determined to break Batman. Wouldn't it be more natural and organic to HAVE Joker as the main villain instead of lazy if anything? How out of place would it be to make Joker have no plot relevance whatsoever despite the fact that Batman clearly had an emotional crisis after he died? Wouldn't it make sense that considering the THEME OF THE GAME (that being Batman's fears and insecurities) that Joker would naturally stick on his mind?
Then he goes onto the Joker blood, which I regret now because this is possibly the worst criticism I've heard of it. It just completely assumes things that aren't true.
It's never said that the blood was the reason Joker was the way he is, in fact it's the opposite. Isn't it shown through the actual game that's it literally a manifestation of the living human himself? Henry Adams says in the audio files that he's missed Harley, which if it would just turn people into psychotic maniacs like the Joker, wouldn't also have his memories. It's also shown Batman's perspective that in the lead up to turning into him, that it is THE Joker guiding them along that path.
He also says this ruins the mystique of the Joker because it just shows that anyone can turn into someone like him if they were infected by Titan or the chemicals in ACE chemicals, when this also isn't true because of what I stated above; this doesn't turn people into people like him, this turns people into him BECAUSE it's his blood and nothing else would do the trick.
Here's an actually popular criticism: "Why doesn't the cure Batman drink work anymore?"
Because it wasn't the formula for the Joker disease. Simple. It was the Titan disease that it was supposed to cure.
"Wouldn't he still deal with the physical aspects of the disease?"
This criticism states that it doesn't make sense that Batman defeats the disease by overpowering it mentally. When... Is it established that this disease can't be defeated mentally and have it's effects be eradicated because of that? This is a completely new disease that has it's own rules, it isn't contradicting anything. It's not cancer where that is completely separate from mental fortitude. Before some people say, "then why didn't the other patients resist it?", May I remind you that the only person who resisted it (Batman) is canonically able to completely recover and overcome a toxin that's quote, "able to drive ten men insane" in five to ten minutes, so therefore would naturally be able to overcome something like this?
He then goes on to say that the fact that Batman didn't go to the ace chemical factory and instead used a scanner to locate where the toxin like it was an actual criticism... Let's remind ourselves that Batman, by Scarecrow's words, has only tonight to stop him from mass spreading the fear toxin. Of course he's going to see where exactly the fear toxin is first before he may waste time looking in Ace Chemicals in the low chance that Scarecrow may not be operating there.
Now he complains about Scarecrows motivation, which is a popular complaint among reviewers.
I'm not going to quote his review but I'm going to state Scarecrow's motivation because a lot of people seem to get it wrong, especially GodzillaMendoza.
Scarecrow wants to break Batman mentally, and show people that he failed. That includes him destroying Gotham City and the east coast because that would naturally break and scar Batman. Easy enough.
Now, here's his criticisms for real;
"how would Scarecrow know Batman would hallucinate Barbara being killed?"
Yeah, it's not like he has a partner who apparently knows how Batman acts and thinks or anything, and would naturally know more about him. /s
Also, think of the circumstances he put Batman in. He captured Barbara, Batman doesn't know where Barbara is and when Scarecrow reveals him her location and acts like he has a limited time to save her, that would naturally ignite a fear in someone that their friend would die if they didn't get there. Crane is a professional psychologist, he knows how to manipulate people to think certain ways for fucks sake. His whole gimmick is finding out people's worst fears, don't you think he would know how to resurface those fears, or how to slowly build up one's anxiety or fear?
He says next that Scarecrows plan would last two days with Superman or Flash in this universe. Are we forgetting here that the only thing that would genuinely stop Scarecrows gas was Poison Ivy and her giant tree plant that only she could reawaken with Batman's help?
He then complains that Scarecrow would basically a destroy a Gotham with no one worth to save except the GCPD. First off, Scarecrow was going to gas the entire east coast along with Gotham. Two, it didn't matter if there wasn't a lot of people to save, he knows Batman would try and save it anyway and he exploited that. Three, he doesn't care about gassing the civilians, otherwise, he wouldn't have evacuated the city. He cares about breaking Batman mentally and showing the world that he failed, and one of those ways would more than likely be; destroy the place he protects.
"Was the Cloudburst a back up plan? What happens if ACE chemicals did work?"
He literally answered his own question in this sentence......... I really don't need to explain.
"He acted like this was his plan all along"
I mean... Yeah, it was a back up plan. You would naturally have a good back up plan. It's not even that complicated, it's literally just "Ace Chemical explosion but A TANK", this isn't some 4-D chess plan he's coming up with.
It's also said by one of the Thugs chatter that Scarecrow "was going to take the thing on tour", which would naturally be take it across the country. It's both a backup and a combination of the two plans.
"Why not detonate it when Batman is in Ace Chemicals?"
Doesn't Stagg literally try and stop Scarecrow from getting the Cloudburst? That would halt things a bit, to have your manufacturer of a big tank change his mind and not give you it?
"Why not protect the entire Island with tanks?"
When you go into Ace Chemicals, you can see they're still deploying soldiers and tanks. They clearly didn't have enough tanks to occupy a whole island just yet.
One problem with this critique is that he expects the villains to be complete geniuses who are ten million steps ahead of Batman and outsmart him in every circumstance, and because Batman isn't shown to be completely outmatched or constantly underhanded he says it's bad writing.
"If they threw everything at once at him he wouldn't be ready to adapt"
Two things. One. They didn't have everything ready just yet. Two. THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF HE HAD A TANK. Not even Arkham Knight did, so why would they want to waste resources on the teeny tiny chance the Batmobile is actually a tank when they didn't even know if he did?
"Who fucking cares if Gotham sees Batman fail? Or if his crusade is ruined? The only people who would see this are criminals"
What? Are we forgetting that Gotham is not the only place on Earth? It's literally at the end of the game that normal civilians are watching Scarecrows broadcast of his identity reveal.
He then says that the Arkham Knight only speaks about doing stuff and never actually does it.
- He evacuated the entirety of Gotham with his militia group, and took over the city.
- He captured Oracle, who's basically Batman's number one assistant.
- He's captures Jim Gordon.
- He literally drove the Cloudburst which gassed the entire city.
Now, the Jason Todd flashbacks.
"Batman's having flashbacks to events he wasn't even there for!"
... Are we forgetting that Joker is literally in Batman's thoughts and that he's becoming Joker? He's going to have his memories and Joker is going to play tricks on his mind. We see in the Open world the signs and statues turn into Joker. Is it really that mind boggling that he imagines this when Joker has done this throughout the game constantly?
Also, Batman says "Joker sent me the film, I saw him kill you" at the Jason Todd fight for god sakes.
Now he's saying "Why didn't Batman look for the body" in the comics he did" now correct me if I'm wrong, but in that comic, I don't remember Joker telling Batman that he killed Jason and showing footage of him blowing up the building. Of course Batman is going to think Jason is dead! Do you really think Batman would believe Joker would leave Jason alive? And do you really think that the world's greatest detective would see a guy getting shot after being malnourished and tortured physically for months on end would live after that? And wasn't that presented as a legitimate point in the story that Batman didn't come for him? Of course he thought he was dead. This isn't a plot hole, it's pointed out in the story that Batman legitimately thought he was dead and that didn't come for the body and that it was a legitimate mistake of his? That's why he apologized to Jason.
"Where did Jason get the money??"
It's mentioned a few times by thugs that every major criminal in Gotham chipped in, along with Lex Luthor. Also, it would safe to assume Stagg chipped in as well considering he was in on Scarecrow's plan with the Cloudburst. If course if they have a plan to kill Batman they're going to, y'know, spend money on killing him.
He now says that Jason Todd in the comics was a good criticism or good counterpart to Batman, unlike the Arkham Knight. Yes, hee was but how is AK Jason not a good criticism of Batman either? His entire motivation comes off of the same premise as the UTRH comic, in which he is angry at Batman for apparently not caring as much about him as he thought he did. Comic Jason is mad at Batman because he thought he didn't care for him because didn't kill the Joker for him, and AK Jason is mad at Batman because he thought he didn't care for him by thinking he left him to die. Pretending Jason's motivation in UTRH was purely out of ideological purposes when he even stated that he didn't care if Batman didn't kill anyone else, just Joker because Joker killed him. It's an emotional motivation if anything, same as Jason from Knight.
"He's just gonna listen to scarecrow and give up for no reason"
It's not for no reason, they're both partners here and they have to cooperate with each other. Scarecrow wants to emotionally and mentally defeat Batman and Jason wants to kill him, and in order to achieve both because they're working together, Scarecrows gotta do his thing first. It's very clear and understandable, and Jason even tries to act upon it when he gets impatient and decides to give up on the plan.
"Why not just do it when he has two guns pointed at him?"
He had one gun, and it's probably not smart to try and shoot him then and there when you're the only person in that room across from Batman.
"And it's made worse by trying to explain his anger and sounding like an idiot"
He's angry that Batman didn't kill Joker when he had the chance and left him for dead according to him. Just because he is not as forgiving as comic book Jason doesn't make it bad writing, it makes sense for him to be angry at Batman. It's literally a criticism of his ideology. Also, when is it said by anyone that Batman killed Joker? Anyone major anyway? Jason never once said "Hey, you killed Joker then, why not beforehand?"
And yes, Jason had done bad things. People do that when revenge is concerned.
Now he's on to Batman. Oh boy. I personally think this interpretation of Batman is the best in media, so forgive me if I get a little mad.
"Why does Batman say this the end? Scarecrow and Arkham Knight are shown to be bad at their job and he doesn't show any Joker symptoms"
What? It's the fact that Joker is in his head taunting him constantly and the fact that he has a villain that helps increase and fasten the process of him turning into Joker not evidence of him having any Joker Symptoms?
Also, I've already said what Scarecrow and Arkham Knight have done that shows they're competent so I won't do it again.
Batman realises that the myth of the Batman is probably coming to an end. The Joker is taking him over and Scarecrow has killed and captured some of the people he holds dear. He more than likely realises that the fact that Scarecrow and the Arkham Knight have done as such that they will probably get to him as well through his friends and allies. They have already shown off his number one assistant AKA Oracle, they've already shown that's he's just a man and nothing more.
Now he says the fact that Scarecrow is alone in a room with a gun pointed at two hostages (ROBIN AND JIM GORDON) and the fact that Batman doesn't do anything is stupid.
One. I don't care if you're a super secret ninja man, if you have a dude with a gun pointed directly at your closest friends and allies, and who has shown that he's willing to kill people, then he's not gonna risk it. If he has shown in any way that he has defied Scarecrow or went to Arkham Asylum by himself, Scarecrow would kill them.
There's also nothing to prove that Arkham Batman has an arsenal in his suit like other adaptations. This is a moot point that proves nothing.
Scarecrow specifically asked Batman to come alone. If he sees literally anything resembling a Nightwing or bat related gadget thing Jim and Robin are dead. Batman doesn't want to risk that because it's stated throughout the goddamn game that he fears losing his allies, so when they have a gun pointed at them, it's probably realistic that Batman doesn't want to attempt a ninja break in in the chance in they die.
"Batman had to let Scarecrow strap him to a gurney"
Batman doesn't know if by attacking Scarecrow, that maybe he would alert guards to kill Robin and Jim. And besides, would Batman really want to risk getting both shot and induced with fear gas that would probably him into the Joker? Scarecrow has shown multiple times that he's capable of sticking his needles into Batman or showering him with fear toxin, ALONG with the gun as well. Batman. Doesn't. Want. To. Risk. IT.
Scarecrow at this point has broken Batman. He put Robin and Jim into a Jason Todd situation and Batman is faced with his worst fear; losing his allies. Scarecrow has systematically heightened and resurfaced this fear constantly throughout the game. Just like an hour beforehand, Batman sees the fruit of his failures; Jason, he lost him and he thought Jason was truly gone forever. He couldn't handle losing another ally. Batman at this point surrenders completely to Scarecrow out of fear. That is the point. Batman is not himself here. That's what makes the finale so satisfying. Batman finally overcoming scarecrow completely by saying "I'm not afraid of you, Crane." It'd be more out of character for Batman if anything if he decided to go in guns blazing considering the effort he takes to protect his allies.
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"Why couldn't Nightwing and Catwoman save him?"
Ummm, first of all, they don't really have any form of transportation and Arkham Asylum is really far away. Secondly, like I've said, they don't want to risk killing batman or the others.
"He just told Jason he was sorry, was that enough to pull a complete 180?"
Yes. Jason at this point has been responsible for everything bad that happened to Batman that night. He still thinks at this point is Barbara is still dead, and it was Jason's fault for that as he captured her. He was responsible for what happened to Gotham, he helped Scarecrow throughout all of this, he's tried to kill Bruce but yet... Bruce tells him he's sorry and offers Jason a chance to fix everything that happened, as a team. Jason has thought up to all of this that Batman didn't care if he died, he thought he left him for dead and those months of torture with Joker just scarred him. Batman showing regret, forgiveness and a chance to help him helped Jason realise that Batman still cared for him. A simple "sorry" can change your entire perception about a person.
That's it. Bye.